Paus Fransiskus I, Paus Terakhir?

seperti yang selalu digembar-gemborkan oleh oknum-oknum di forum ini, bahwa Paus kali ini adalah Paus terakhir, menurut ini dan menurut itu.
bagaimana kalau kita diskusikan bersama?

saya mulai yah,

bagaimana kalau apa yang digembar-gemborkan selama ini tidak terjadi?
kira-kira bagaimana tanggapan dari oknum-oknum tersebut yah??

Let us see, kayaknya sih ia. Tapi mw itu salah ato benar ga penting bgt. Wong aku dapat keselamatan dari Kristus.

Mungkin lebih menarik membahas kematian Paus Yohanes Paulus I yang hanya menjabat 33 hari.

Kita belum tahu benar tidaknya Paus ini terakhir kan Paus ini belum diganti atau mati.

Yang meramalkan ini juga bukan orang2 disini, Tapi Kardinal Malachi, ada yang percaya ada yang tidak. Jadi orang dalam dan orang petinggi katolik sendiri yang meramal. Kakau tidak terjadi ya salahkan petinggi katolik itu, orang2 disini hanya memposting saja.

Kardinal Malachi kan tidak meramalkan seperti itu, tidak ada kepastian bahwa Paus Fransiskus I, tetapi oknum-oknum disini yang doyan gembar gembor, bahwa kali ini Paus terakhir, jadi bukan Malachi yang gembar-gembor, tapi oknum disini yah…

yang saya tanyakan, kalau gak kebukti bagaimana?
apakah bisa dikatakan bahwa oknum-oknum tersebut adalah pendusta?

mas gandrunk…

bukannya kalau berdasarkan ramalan itu… yang terakhir dalam list itu adalah Benedictus XVI yg kemarin resign mas?
dan seharusnya sekarang sudah tidak ada pope lagi… alias menuju ke jaman kiamat ?? ehehe…

bukankah dia memang Paus terakhir?

…for now

Ada apa dengan Paus John Paul I ?
Apakah karena menjadi Paus maka seseorang menjadi berumur panjang?

Sekedar info, Paus John Paul I bukanlah Paus yang tersingkat masa kepemimpinannya.
Silahkan baca :

Popes with the shortest reigns

The list of the 11 shortest-reigning popes[1] includes:

Urban VII (September 15–September 27, 1590): reigned for 13 calendar days,[13] died before consecration.
Boniface VI (April, 896): reigned for 16 calendar days
Celestine IV (October 25–November 10, 1241): reigned for 17 calendar days, died before consecration.
Theodore II (December, 897): reigned for 20 calendar days
Sisinnius (January 15–February 4, 708): reigned for 21 calendar days
Marcellus II (April 9–May 1, 1555): reigned for 22 calendar days
Damasus II (July 17–August 9, 1048): reigned for 24 calendar days
Pius III (September 22–October 18, 1503): reigned for 27 calendar days.
Leo XI (April 1–April 27, 1605): reigned for 27 calendar days
Benedict V (May 22–June 23, 964): reigned for 33 calendar days.
John Paul I (August 26–September 28, 1978): reigned for 33 calendar days


owh… gitu yah mas…

artinya… ntu oknum… disebut apa yah mas???

#ngakak dulu…

owh… jadi terakhir dan sekarang maknanya sama yah…

peace bro,., :happy0025:

Malachy’s Prophecies - The Last 10 Popes
Known to Catholics as St. Malachy (1094-1148)

Born in 1094 A.D. at Armagh, Ireland, Saint Malachy is also known as: Maolmhaodhog ua Morgair; Maol Maedoc; and Malachy O’Morgair. He died as he himself predicted, on November 2, 1148 at Clairvaux, France. Malachy was canonized the first Irish Saint in the Catholic Church by Pope Clement III in 1190 A.D.

The correspondence between the prophecies of Saint Malachy and the Mayan Calendar (whose ‘long count’ ends in 2012) are alarming, to put it mildly. Why did the ancient Mayan or pre-Maya choose December 21st, 2012 A.D., as the end of their Long Count calendar?

Saint Malachy was a 12th century Irish monk, who, while on a visit to Rome had a vision of all the popes who would ever reign. Malachy “saw”-and committed to paper- a series of Latin phrases describing the popes to come. He catalogued each one with an epigrammatic verse, such as ‘the tears of the sun’. Malachy made the prophecy in 1139. Reportedly it was entrusted to Pope Innocent II in 1140. But for some reason it was “lost” in the Vatican for 400 years, only to be “discovered” in 1595 A.D. Malachy s predictions reputedly were made in 1139 while he was on a pilgrimage to the Vatican, where he was appointed papal legate for Ireland. On his last trek to the holy see in Rome, in 1148, Malachy accurately predicted the place and time of his own death: Clairvaux, France, on All Souls Day, November 2, of that same year.

The Malachy Prophecies were first published in 1595, by a Benedictine monk & historian named Arnold de Wyon, who found them 5 years earlier in the Vatican archives. Arnold recorded them in his book, entitled: ‘Lignum Vitæ’.

Malachy’s Prophecies - The Last 10 Popes

  1. The Burning Fire. PIUS X. 1903-1914. This Pope showed a burning passion for spiritual renewal in the Church.

  2. Religion Laid Waste (Religio Depopulata). BENEDICT XV. 1914-1922. Unfortunately, this was true. During this Pope’s reign saw Communism move into Russia where religious life was laid waste, and World War I with the death of millions of Christians who were carnage in Flanders Field and elsewhere.

  3. Unshaken Faith. PIUS XI. 1922-1939. This Pope faced tremendous pressure from fascist and sinister powers in Germany and Italy, but he was an outspoken critic of Communism and Fascism which enraged Hitler.

  4. An Angelic Shepherd. PIUS XII. 1939-1958. This Pope had an affinity for the spiritual world and received visions which have not been made public. Peter Bander says Pius XII “has emerged as one of the great Popes of all time,” and he “was in the truest sense of the word an Angelic Pastor to the flock…”

  5. Pastor and Mariner. JOHN XXIII. 1958-1963. " Pastor et Nauta" or “Pastor and sailor”. John was a pastor to the world, much beloved, and the Patriarch of Venice. The connection to “mariner” is thus remarkable. According Peter Bander in The Prophecies of Malachy (TAN Books and Publisher, 1969) during the conclave which was to elect John XXIII in 1958, a certain Cardinal from the United States, (Cardinal Spellman of New York) evidently having taken Malachy’s forecast that the next pope would be “pastor and mariner” literally, rented a boat, filled it with sheep and sailed up and down the Tiber.

  6. Flower of Flowers. “Flos Florum” PAUL VI. 1963-1978. Paul’s coat-of-arms depicts three fleurs-de-lis, corresponding to Malachy’s prophecy. His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms). At the popular and controversial site of Garabandal in Spain, a seer named Conchita Gonzalez once noted: “The Blessed Virgin said in 1962 that there will only be two more popes after Paul VI.”

  7. Of the Half Moon. “De Medietate Lanae,” or “from the half moon” JOHN PAUL I. 1978-1978. John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978, when there was a half moon. He reigned 33 days, that is, about one month, when he died, although many think he was murdered. He was the 109th Pope - is “De Medietate Lunae” (Of the Half Moon). The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino Luciani which means white light, such as that given off by the half-moon in Malachy s prophecy. He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

  8. The Labor of the Son. “De Medietate Lunae” JOHN PAUL II. 1978-2005

Amazingly, Pope John Paul II was the only pope who was both born the day of an eclipse of the sun, and entombed the day the sun was eclipsed.

One of Malachy’s strangest predictions concerned the pope who would follow ‘De Medietate Lunae’. He is designated as ‘De Labore Solis’, or ‘from the toil of the sun’. Applied to John Paul II, this phrase reveals nothing less than a double prophecy. John Paul II (Karol Wojtyla), the first non-Italian elected in 456 years, was a native of Krakow, Poland. Krakow is the city where, in the 15th and 16th centuries, Copernicus ‘toiled’; for years to prove his heretical theory that the earth revolved around the sun. Many of Malachy s interpreters also suggested that the ‘sun’ reference indicated a young pope. Fifty-eight years old at the time of his election, John Paul II was the youngest pope in over a century.
John Paul II was the most traveled Pope in history. He has circled the globe numerous times, preaching to huge audiences everywhere he goes. Even though he was once shot, he has not seemed to slow down. He has recently written a book which has enjoyed a large circulation.

Like the sun which never ceases to labor and provides light daily, this Pope has been incessant. John Paul compared abortion to the Holocaust and denounced gay marriages as part of ‘a new ideology of evil’. He argued that same-sex marriages threaten society by undermining the traditional family.

Late Pope John Paul II

John Paul II was born on May 18, 1920. On that date in the morning there was a near total eclipse of the sun over Europe. Prophecy - The 110th Pope is ‘De Labore Solis’ (Of the Solar Eclipse, or, From the Toil of the Sun). The corresponding pope is John Paul II (1978-2005). Karol Wojtyla (John Paul II) was born on May 18, 1920 during an eclipse of the sun. Like the sun he came out of the East (Poland). Like the sun he has visited countries all around the globe while doing his work. Karol was the first non-Italian pope in 456 years. He was ordained on November 1, 1946 and earned a doctorate in ethics at the Angelicum University in Rome. He was made auxiliary bishop in 1958 and Archbishop in 1964 of Krakow and Cardinal in 1967. He was elected the first Polish pope on October 1978. He spoke eight languages and he traveled more than any other pope in history. John Paul II died at the Vatican on Saturday, April 2, 2005, the same day as a partial eclipse, visible in the Americas.

John Paul II lying in the Vatican

John Paul II may also be connected to the revelation of Saint Faustina Kowalska of Poland (quoting Jesus), “I bear a special love for Poland and if she will be obedient to My Will, I will exalt her in might and holiness. From her will come forth the spark that will prepare the world for My final coming” (Diary “Divine Mercy in My Soul”).

Disturbing about Pope John Paul II is that no other Pope in history ever has called for a “New World Order”, and this pope waited until he had sat on the Throne of Peter for over 25 years! Why would Pope John Paul II wait for 25 long years before announcing his affinity for the New World Order? A “New World Order” is known in the esoteric realm as “the kingdom of the Christ” – but thought by many in the Bible as an Antichrist (or Antichrist system). Was it because John Paul was senile or carried away with his own desire for ecumenicalism/friendship?

Other things John Paul II did while very old were: he also kissed the pagan Qur’an and said that Islam and Christians had the same God. Would the God of the Bible agree to tell the lies about Jesus that Islam does? Islam lies that Jesus never even died on a cross, and Islam also says that Jesus is not divine.

  1. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is “Gloria Olivae” (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. Traditionally, the olive branch has been associated with peace, but in both the Old and New Testaments it also serves as an emblem for the Jews. Putting the two together, some commentators believe that the reign of this pope will be a peaceful one during which the prophesied conversion of the Jews will take place. Several ex-Jews are said to be highly placed in the Catholic Church now. And, it is noteworthy that the previous Benedict (XV) was a pope obsessed with peace. Some others say, he will lead all faithful followers of the Lord Jesus to martyrdom and others say that he will tear down the walls of the Vatican, auctioning off all the objects within, in order to feed and enlighten those in the 3rd World who have not yet heard the Gospel of Christ.

Bible Probe Comment: The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

LOOK at the above again. The next pope will have something to do with OLIVE --not necessarily or even probably a Benedictine.

Malachy DID NOT prophesize it would be a Benedictine! Someone in the Benedictine Order said they think the next pope will come from the Benedictines. GET THAT STRAIGHT!

Also, St Benedict prophesized: before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. NOTHING was mentioned as leading as a pope!

Pope Benedict XVI (16th) was not a Benedictine priest, yet he chose the name of Benedict, the founder of the Order of Saint Benedict, which also is known as the Olivetans. Benedict the 16th also said he also selected the name Benedict in part as a homage to Pope Benedict XV (15th), who guided the church through World War I, and within days of being named pope - decrying what he saw as “Cafeteria Catholicism” — in which churchgoers obey only the parts of the Church canon they find appealing.

  1. PETER THE ROMAN - The 112th prophesy states: “In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.” The last pope may just cut Catholics loose from unity and the papacy, causing total disruption and confusion. See Saint Francis of Assissi’s 13th century prophecy below. It is believed the next pope will

Will “The Glory of the Olive” be the last Pope?

The problem with the prophecies as listed in The Prophecies of St. Malachy, published by the Thomas A. Nelson, a Catholic Publishing House, is that Malachy’s original works listed only 111 Popes, not 112, as given in the TAN version of the prophecies. Sometime between the first and subsequent printings the 112th, Petrus Romanus, was added to Malachy’s prophecy. It was added after the 1820 publication of the prophecies.

On April 19th, 2005 Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope Benedict XVI, the 265th Pope. The name Benedict means “blessing”. Does this name automatically fulfill this prophecy?

April 21, 2005 - Mary Jo Anderson, a Catholic scholar and writer, says the Pope’s choice of his name is not related to the prophecy of St. Malachy. Instead, she thinks the new pope chose his moniker as a reference to sixth-century St. Benedict and his quest to protect Rome from invading German pagans…claiming the pontiff hopes to protect the modern-day Church from destructive philosophies that originated in Germany. Source:WorldNetDaily
Of note: Benedict XV — who reigned from 1914 to 1922 — was a moderate following Pius X, who had implemented a sharp crackdown against doctrinal “modernism.”

Will the papacy of this 78 year old pope be short lived? Is this the beginning of Tribulation? Will the next pope be the last pope? Will the next pope be a Roman and choose the name Peter? The Or, will Tribulation begin AFTER the Anti-Christ has shown himself as a person of peace and already made peace with Israel’s enemies for seven years? Can we read anything into Putin’s recent visit to Israel?


jadi?? :rolleye0014: :rolleye0014:

Menurut artikel diatas santo Malachy ini sampai bisa meramal tanggal kematian sendiri.

Cuma ada masalah dalam pemberian nama dari Pope yang ke 112 yang terakhir ini(menurut ramalan santo MalachY)

Santo malachy katanya tidak memberi nama apa2 pada yang ke 112. Nama Petros romanus adalah tambahan dari catholic publishing house tahun 1820.

Jadi kalau ada kesalahan ya dari pihak petinggi2 katolik sendiri, sobat2 disini hanya memposting dari sumber katolik sendiri.

kalu yang digembar gemborkan selama ini kaga terjadi, tanggapan dari oknum2 itu ya bilang ‘berarti scripture SANTO MALAKHI ~~> HOAX’ … gitu aje. ;D
soalnye isu2 itu muncul juga pedomannya dari st.malachy prophecies [st.malachy katholik lho]

na kalu ternyata benar begimane ?
Tuhan ngomong; suru berjaga2.
jadi bukan masalahin yang udeh lewat, tapi yang akan datang; conto - pelebura, universalism, one world order…

kalu gw pribadi, liat paus baru… dari auranya keliatan lembut, saleh, kalem.
kalu paus Benedict XVI, gw agak serem liat sorot matanya yang tajem gitu.
beda dah ama paus baru…

ok, bwat ramein.,… gw kasi referensi bwat trit lu… gw sendiri no comment dah.
gimane nurut lu tentang ini:

111. Benedict XVI (2005-2013) Gloria olivae
Benedict means “Blessed by God.” Prior to his elevation to the Purple, Joseph Alois Ratzinger was Prefect of the Holy Office of the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (previously known as The Roman and Universal Inquisition). As a staunch defender of the Church his immediate personna is one of hard line orthodoxy. He is an opponent of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, and abortion.

In his retirement this “false prophet” and “Glory of the olive” resides still in Rome as Pope Emeritus, His Holiness (sic) Benedict XVI, and continues to wear his papal ring (see below) which explains the contemporaneous popes prophesied in Revelation 19:20 and 20:10.

112. Francis I (2013-) In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis. (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed [in accordance with Revelation 18:4-20], and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)

On March 13, 2013, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of the Jewish Society of Jesus, former right hand man to Jesuit Superiors General Pedro Arrupe and Peter-Hans Kolvenbach was named Pope Francis I after St. Francis of Assisi whose full name was Francesco di Pietro (Peter) di Bernardone, an Italian who was once a beggar in Rome, effectively making Bergoglio “Peter the Roman.” Francis I is the first Jesuit and the first from the Americas to be elected Pope. He is the first non-European pope since Syrian-born Pope Gregory III, who served for ten years (731–741). Francis I is well-qualified to be pope of the cloven hoof, fulfilling Revelation 17:11; 13:3-10 and I Thessalonians 5:3 and the final prophecy of St. Malachy. If this be so he will also fulfill Brother Branham’s prophesy of the final pope after the brief ‘hot stage’ of World War III: “I believe, one of these glorious days, when this united confederation of church goes together, and the new pope is brought out of the United States and put over there [in Jerusalem] according to prophecy [Daniel 7:25-25; 8:23-25; 9:27; 11:32-35; Revelation 13], then they’ll form an image like unto the beast [the United States and Rome’s (once) Protestant daughter churches]” (Acts of the Holy Spirit, p. 12:87).

According to Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13 and 17:10-18, Satan will incarnate the last pontiff who will deify himself and break Rome’s covenant with the Jewish banksters. It is claimed Malachy made only 111 predictions and that the Benedictines devised pope 112 in order to dissociate their order from the “Beast” so that John Paul II’s successor should be the final pope. However “Gloria olivae” resides still in Rome as Pope Emeritus, His Holiness (sic) Benedict XVI, and it appears Malachy’s prophecy of popes 111 and 112 are intended to be conjoined in accordance with the two popes mentioned in Revelation 19:20, and 20:10. This scripture is reinforced by the fact Pope Benedict was the first pope to receive the Ring of St. Peter after it was re-instated by John Paul II who did not wear the ring, and contrary to custom Pope Benedict XVI did not destroy his ring but “disabled the seal” and now wears the ring contemporaneously with Pope Francis I, enjoining both to St. Peter—something that has never happened in the history of the false church, but fulfilling Jesus’ prophecy!

kalu gw pribadi, liat paus baru... dari auranya keliatan lembut, saleh, kalem. kalu paus Benedict XVI, gw agak serem liat sorot matanya yang tajem gitu. beda dah ama paus baru....

He he he he, harus gua akui memang benar sih.
Walau harus juga diketahui, bahwa Paus yang ini adalah Jesuit lho.

becanda bro, maksud saya, sekarang ini memang dia Paus terakhir, kalau nanti ada yang gantiin ya berarti bukan yang terakhir.

Siapa yang mengatakan tersingkat bro? Tanpa perlu bro tampilkan data itu, banyak orang juga mengetahuinya.

Paus Yohanes Paulus I cukup unik. Ia paus pertama yang menggunakan dua nama (Yohanes dan Paulus, menghormati pendahulunya), dan ia tidak mau menggunakan mahkota saat pelantikannya (berbeda dengan tradisi Gereja Katolik Roma). Ia terkenal sebagai paus yang murah senyum dan rendah hati. Dan ia bertekad membersihkan bank Vatikan dari para koruptor. Namun kemudian, ia tiba-tiba meninggal. Padahal pelayannya mengatakan ia dalam kondisi sehat.

kalau yg ke 113 gak ada ya mas?

mas jack sendiri memilih mempercayai ramalan ini, sehingga dengan demikian tidak ada paus lagi, atau LRK sudah lenyap / hancur?

atau mas jack memilih tidak percaya dengan model Ramal-Meramal, sehingga akan ada Paus berikutnya lagi?

coba mas… kalau menjawab pertanyaan… mohon agar sesuai pertanyaannya…
kalo enggak, mendingan buka topik sendiri…
kasian kan yang baca…