Skandal Seks Pastur, Gereja Katolik Belgia Digerebek

Skandal Seks Pastur, Gereja Katolik Belgia Digerebek
Rita Uli Hutapea - detikNews
Jumat, 25/06/2010 10:10 WIB

Brussels - Aparat kepolisian Belgia menggerebek markas besar gereja Katolik Belgia. Penggerebekan ini dilakukan menyusul dugaan-dugaan baru mengenai kekerasan seksual anak yang melibatkan para pastur.

Ini merupakan pukulan terbaru bagi gereja Katolik yang didera berbagai skandal seks pastur paedofil. Penggerebekan ini dilakukan di saat berlangsungnya pertemuan para uskup di Mechelen, sebelah utara Brussels. Pertemuan itu dihadiri duta besar Vatikan untuk Belgia.

“Dalam konteks investigasi baru-baru ini, para jaksa telah diberitahu mengenai tuduhan-tuduhan mengenai kejahatan terhadap anak-anak di bawah umur yang dilakukan beberapa figur gereja tertentu,” kata juru bicara untuk kejaksaan Brussels, Jean-Marc Meilleur.

Sekitar 30 perwira dan penyidik telah menyegel markas keuskupan Mechelen-Brussels untuk memastikan apakah tuduhan-tuduhan itu kuat atau tidak," kata Jean-Marc Meilleur tanpa menjelaskan lebih rinci seperti dilansir kantor berita AFP, Jumat (25/6/2010).

Gereja Katolik di Belgia telah mengalami beberapa skandal paedofilia terburuk, termasuk kasus uskup berumur 73 tahun, Roger Vangheluwe yang mengaku telah melakukan kekerasan seks terhadap seorang anak laki-laki selama bertahun-tahun.

Skandal seks pastur paedofil kembali merebak sejak tahun lalu di berbagai negara di Eropa, juga Amerika Serikat dan Brasil. Belum lama ini, pemimpin gereja Katolik dunia, Paus Benediktus XVI meminta maaf atas skandal-skandal tersebut.
(ita/nrl)

wah wahh…
kog bisa yahh…
moga mereka bisa sadar… dan berubahh…

bener2 binun…, skandal ginian uda sering terjadi dari dulu2. napa ga bisa distop ya? apa ga pernah dirancang suatu sistem yg bisa lbh ketat ato hukuman keras gmn gitu…? :mad0261:

Skandal seks pastur paedofil kembali merebak sejak tahun lalu di berbagai negara di Eropa, juga Amerika Serikat dan Brasil

ini semua dilakukan oleh : OKNUM :huh:

klo menurut gw…
samakin intim kita dekat sama JC smakin iblis Ga suka… dan dia bakal minta tolong sma teman2 yg laen u/ bantu dia…
klo kita buka celah dikit aja buat si iblis ya siap2… iblis RAJANYA PENIPU…

Koq jadi kayak polisi sini klo ada yg bersalah lgs lari ke alasan OKNUM, hehehe.
Menurut saya, pasti ada sistem yg gak beres, seperti lemahnya pengawasan, para uskup/pastur punya kuasa terlalu besar dan bisa bergerak bebas, proses contact person yg terlalu gampang tanpa pemberitahuan terlebih dahulu kepada pegawas ato mgk juga emang ga ada pengawasnya.

Itu menunjukkan ngga ada manusia di muka bumi yang immune terhadap dosa …kecuali hanya Yesus…
krn itu Dia memang pantas dan layak mendapat sebutan sbg Allah…
Krn hanya Allah saja yang immune thd dosa :afro:

Menurut saya, pasti ada sistem yg gak beres, seperti lemahnya pengawasan, para uskup/pastur punya kuasa terlalu besar dan bisa bergerak bebas, proses contact person yg terlalu gampang tanpa pemberitahuan terlebih dahulu kepada pegawas ato mgk juga emang ga ada pengawasnya. Posted on: Today at 02:08:04 PM Posted by: ochadoankk

mereka sadar kok , bahwa mereka diawasi oleh Tuhan :huh:

saya anggota FK dan kebetulan newbie ,kebetulan Katolik pula , he…he…berita berita semacam ini selalu dibesar-besarkan di hembus-hembuskan ,orang selalu merasa senang dengan berita berita yang sensasional , kalau ada kyiai yang meng hamili santri nya , mensodomi santri nya udah biasa , kalau ada pendeta ternama di Amerika yang terlibat skandal seks dengan staf nya udah biasa , tapi sory-sory aja ,ada gak yang menghitung jumlah pastur di seluruh dunia berapa ? berapa yang terlibat skandal ? berapa yang bekerja dengan benar dan setia untuk Tuhan Yesus . terus hitung berapa jumlah kiai , berapa pendeta , berapa yang terlibat skandal seks , terus hitung prosentase nya itu baru adil ! .
bagaimanapun hidup selibat itu sangat berat dan sementara mereka hanya manusia biasa semakin keras usaha seseorang untuk dekat dengan Tuhan semakin kuat godaan , semakin tinggi tingkat iman seseorang iman kristen semakin tinggi pangkat iblis yang menggoda ( mungkin jendral nya iblis yang menggoda :smiley: )
Para pastur itu ingin langsung dalam mencintai Tuhan Nya , kalau awam seperti saya dan lainnya mencintai Tuhan melalui sesama dan keluarga . maka para Imam hendak mencintai Tuhan secara langsung . ya suka suka mereka , mereka merasa itu cara mereka , walau berat Salib yang harus dipikul

Ini ada artikel tentang katolik pastor yang gay. Perhatikan fact 10 dalam artikel ini. Saya terjemahkan bagian ini saja.

Selama tahun 1990 Thomas Crangel yang adalah pastor dari ordo Fransiscan di Passaic, NJ. mengirim surat survay secara random pada 500 pastor yang dipilihnya, 398 memberi respon. dan sekiar 45% mengatakan mereka adalah gay/homo.

Diartikel lain saya pernah baca, ini disebabkan karena mereka itu mengikuti semacam ilmu kebatinan yang menghendaki mereka gay dalam melakukan ritualnya.

During 1990, Rev. Thomas Crangle, a Franciscan priest in Passaic, N.J., mailed a survey to 500 randomly selected priests. Of the 398 responses, about 45% said that they were gay. 10

The following diverse quotes were extracted from reviews of a book by Father Donald Cozzens, titled “The Changing Face of the Priesthood:”

“It would be highly unlikely that a homosexual man in direct contradiction with God’s law and even that of other faiths such as Judaism…would go through the steps of becoming a priest.”

“The presence of large numbers of homosexuals in the clergy is probable, although the 50% that Cozzens suggests seems far too high.”

“The real hope for the future rests on facing the challenges and issues squarely, and on taking an unblinking look at what threatens the integrity and mission of priests today.”

“…the most controversial areas Cozzens deals with are around the seeming increasing number of gay men in the priesthood and what that means for the gay priest, the straight priest, and the institution of the priesthood itself; and the painful reality of clergy sexual abuse of children and the unasked questions about its causes.”

“I confess to a certain anxiety as I begin this reflection on homosexuality and the priesthood. Whatever it said about such a sensitive and complex issue is open to misunderstanding and seeming insensitivity. Some will deny the reality that many observers see as changing the face of the priesthood that the percentage of homosexual priests and seminarians is significantly higher than society at large. Others will see any attention given to the phenomenon as a symptom of the homophobia that is characteristic of individuals with less than open minds. Still others will wonder what difference sexual orientation makes in the celibate lives of priests.”

“Sooner or later the issue will be faced more forthrightly than it has been in the closing days of the 20th century. The longer the delay, the greater the harm to the priesthood and to the Church.” 1

Overview:
A Vatican document of 1961 bars persons with homosexual orientation from ordination and religious vows. However, this document appears to have been almost completely ignored, at least in North America. 2

A new document was issued by the Vatican in late 2005 that places specific restrictions on the eligibility of candidates to Roman Catholic seminaries.

It is important to keep in mind that the vast majority of priests, with a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation, do not molest or sexually abuse young people. In fact, the percentage of pedophiles – adults who molest young children – among the Catholic priesthood appears to be lower than the average for all males. The percentage of abusive hebephile priests – those who have a sexual preference for pubescent youths – and ephebophile - those who have a sexual preference for older adolescents is much higher.

Some definitions:
We will most frequently use the rather awkward term “person with a homosexual orientation,” in this essay to avoid confusion. Terms like “Gay” and “homosexual,” are ambiguous.

To many conservative Christians, homosexuality is interpreted in terms of behavior. A homosexual is any person who engages in same-sex behavior.

To most others, including religious liberals, gays, lesbians, human sexuality researchers, and mental health therapists, homosexuality is interpreted in terms of sexual orientation. The term refers to a person who is attracted to persons of the same gender. A homosexual may choose to be celibate, or may be sexually active.
We will use the second definition in this essay and throughout the rest of this website.

What percentage of priests have a homosexual orientation?
Nobody knows, with any degree of accuracy.

Any discussion of the role of homosexual orientation in the priesthood – in fact any discussion of clergy abuse itself – is hampered by a lack of hard, reliable data.

Some estimates of the percentage of current priests with a homosexual orientation:

Analysis of the estimates of others: According to Amanda Ripley of Time Magazine, estimates range from 15% to 50%. 3
According to Bill Blakemore of ABC News, “…nobody knows what percentage of the American priesthood is gay; estimates range from less than 10% to more than 30%.” 4

Personal estimates: Richard Sipe, a psychotherapist and former priest, has studied celibacy, chastity, and sexuality in the priesthood for four decades. He has authored three books on the topic. He once estimated that 30% of the priesthood is homosexually oriented. 5 Elsewhere, he is quoted as estimating that between 25% and 45% of American priests are homosexual in orientation. 6 He told the Boston Globe: “If they were to eliminate all those who were homosexually oriented, the number would be so staggering that it would be like an atomic bomb; it would do the same damage to the church’s operation…It would mean the resignation of at least a third of the bishops of the world. And it’s very much against the tradition of the church; many saints had a gay orientation, and many popes had gay orientations. Discriminating against orientation is not going to solve the problem.”

Sister Maryanne Walsh, spokesperson for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, said that it would it be difficult to find evidence to support these Sipe’s estimates of the percentage of gay men in the priesthood. She feels that it is also irrelevant. She said: “There’s no real purpose in saying whether someone is homosexual or heterosexual. The issue is whether they can make a commitment [to chastity].” 6

Bishop Jerome Listecki is an auxiliary bishop in Chicago. He estimates that “perhaps more than 10%” of priests have a homosexual orientation." (Emphasis ours). 5

Father Donald Cozzens, an author, psychologist, and Catholic seminary president says that there is such a high percentage of gay priests in the church that he is concerned that ‘the priesthood is or is becoming a gay profession.’ 5 In his book, “The Changing Face of the Priesthood,” – published in the year 2000 – he estimates that 50% of Roman Catholic priests have a homosexual orientation.

A NBC report on chastity and the clergy found that “anywhere from 23 percent to 58 percent” of the Catholic clergy have a homosexual orientation. 7

Author and sociologist James G. Wolfe estimated that 48.5% of priests were gay. 8

Actual surveys: In the Fall of 1999, the Kansas City Star sent a questionnaire to 3,000 priests in the U.S. 73% did not reply. The low response rate could be anticipated. One would expect homosexuals and bisexuals to be reluctant to respond to the questionnaire since it deals with such a sensitive issue, and originated from a newspaper. Homosexual and bisexual priests would probably be less likely to reply to the survey. Among the 801 priests who did reply: 75% said they had a heterosexual orientation;
15% homosexual;
5% bisexual. 9

During 1990, Rev. Thomas Crangle, a Franciscan priest in Passaic, N.J., mailed a survey to 500 randomly selected priests. Of the 398 responses, about 45% said that they were gay. 10

Conclusion: If we assume that all of the estimates are of equal validity, then about 33% of priests have a homosexual orientation – about one in three.

However, as Father Donald Cozzens wrote:

“Beyond these estimates, of course, are priests who remain confused about their orientation and men who have so successfully denied their orientation, that in spite of predominately same-sex erotic fantasies, they insist that they are heterosexual.” 11

Many define “homosexuality” in terms of actual same-sex behavior. They regard themselves as not homosexual because they have never acted on their fantasies, desire and orientation. To that might be added an unknown percentage of priests who have a bisexual orientation, and consider themselves neither homosexual or bisexual.

Same-sex marriage involving priests:
Father Karl Clemens, now approaching 70 years-of-age, had served in the Kingston ON, Canada diocese for 33 years. He moved to Toronto in the mid 1990s to advocate for that city’s gay and lesbian community. He plans to marry his partner “Nick” on 2009-NOV-14. He believes that he will be the first Catholic priest to marry a man in Canada and perhaps in all of North America. He said:

“I’m not doing it to start a revolution, but if people want to exercise their right, and so forth, that’s terrific. … I’m leading the way – or pioneering as it were – in something that I think is very important. It’s a human right. … There will be Catholics who feel, because of their lack of understanding, that this is a very wrong thing and therefore will not be pleased. But those are consequences we have to be willing to deal with because we feel strongly about the issue at hand, which is the right to be able to enter into same-sex marriages.”

The following diverse quotes were extracted from reviews of a book by Father Donald Cozzens, titled “The Changing Face of the Priesthood:”

“It would be highly unlikely that a homosexual man in direct contradiction with God’s law and even that of other faiths such as Judaism…would go through the steps of becoming a priest.”

“The presence of large numbers of homosexuals in the clergy is probable, although the 50% that Cozzens suggests seems far too high.”

“The real hope for the future rests on facing the challenges and issues squarely, and on taking an unblinking look at what threatens the integrity and mission of priests today.”

“…the most controversial areas Cozzens deals with are around the seeming increasing number of gay men in the priesthood and what that means for the gay priest, the straight priest, and the institution of the priesthood itself; and the painful reality of clergy sexual abuse of children and the unasked questions about its causes.”

“I confess to a certain anxiety as I begin this reflection on homosexuality and the priesthood. Whatever it said about such a sensitive and complex issue is open to misunderstanding and seeming insensitivity. Some will deny the reality that many observers see as changing the face of the priesthood that the percentage of homosexual priests and seminarians is significantly higher than society at large. Others will see any attention given to the phenomenon as a symptom of the homophobia that is characteristic of individuals with less than open minds. Still others will wonder what difference sexual orientation makes in the celibate lives of priests.”

“Sooner or later the issue will be faced more forthrightly than it has been in the closing days of the 20th century. The longer the delay, the greater the harm to the priesthood and to the Church.” 1

Overview:
A Vatican document of 1961 bars persons with homosexual orientation from ordination and religious vows. However, this document appears to have been almost completely ignored, at least in North America. 2

A new document was issued by the Vatican in late 2005 that places specific restrictions on the eligibility of candidates to Roman Catholic seminaries.

It is important to keep in mind that the vast majority of priests, with a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation, do not molest or sexually abuse young people. In fact, the percentage of pedophiles – adults who molest young children – among the Catholic priesthood appears to be lower than the average for all males. The percentage of abusive hebephile priests – those who have a sexual preference for pubescent youths – and ephebophile - those who have a sexual preference for older adolescents is much higher.

Some definitions:
We will most frequently use the rather awkward term “person with a homosexual orientation,” in this essay to avoid confusion. Terms like “Gay” and “homosexual,” are ambiguous.

To many conservative Christians, homosexuality is interpreted in terms of behavior. A homosexual is any person who engages in same-sex behavior.

To most others, including religious liberals, gays, lesbians, human sexuality researchers, and mental health therapists, homosexuality is interpreted in terms of sexual orientation. The term refers to a person who is attracted to persons of the same gender. A homosexual may choose to be celibate, or may be sexually active.
We will use the second definition in this essay and throughout the rest of this website.

What percentage of priests have a homosexual orientation?
Nobody knows, with any degree of accuracy.

Any discussion of the role of homosexual orientation in the priesthood – in fact any discussion of clergy abuse itself – is hampered by a lack of hard, reliable data.

Some estimates of the percentage of current priests with a homosexual orientation:

Analysis of the estimates of others: According to Amanda Ripley of Time Magazine, estimates range from 15% to 50%. 3
According to Bill Blakemore of ABC News, “…nobody knows what percentage of the American priesthood is gay; estimates range from less than 10% to more than 30%.” 4

Personal estimates: Richard Sipe, a psychotherapist and former priest, has studied celibacy, chastity, and sexuality in the priesthood for four decades. He has authored three books on the topic. He once estimated that 30% of the priesthood is homosexually oriented. 5 Elsewhere, he is quoted as estimating that between 25% and 45% of American priests are homosexual in orientation. 6 He told the Boston Globe: “If they were to eliminate all those who were homosexually oriented, the number would be so staggering that it would be like an atomic bomb; it would do the same damage to the church’s operation…It would mean the resignation of at least a third of the bishops of the world. And it’s very much against the tradition of the church; many saints had a gay orientation, and many popes had gay orientations. Discriminating against orientation is not going to solve the problem.”

Sister Maryanne Walsh, spokesperson for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, said that it would it be difficult to find evidence to support these Sipe’s estimates of the percentage of gay men in the priesthood. She feels that it is also irrelevant. She said: “There’s no real purpose in saying whether someone is homosexual or heterosexual. The issue is whether they can make a commitment [to chastity].” 6

Bishop Jerome Listecki is an auxiliary bishop in Chicago. He estimates that “perhaps more than 10%” of priests have a homosexual orientation." (Emphasis ours). 5

Father Donald Cozzens, an author, psychologist, and Catholic seminary president says that there is such a high percentage of gay priests in the church that he is concerned that ‘the priesthood is or is becoming a gay profession.’ 5 In his book, “The Changing Face of the Priesthood,” – published in the year 2000 – he estimates that 50% of Roman Catholic priests have a homosexual orientation.

A NBC report on chastity and the clergy found that “anywhere from 23 percent to 58 percent” of the Catholic clergy have a homosexual orientation. 7

Author and sociologist James G. Wolfe estimated that 48.5% of priests were gay. 8

Actual surveys: In the Fall of 1999, the Kansas City Star sent a questionnaire to 3,000 priests in the U.S. 73% did not reply. The low response rate could be anticipated. One would expect homosexuals and bisexuals to be reluctant to respond to the questionnaire since it deals with such a sensitive issue, and originated from a newspaper. Homosexual and bisexual priests would probably be less likely to reply to the survey. Among the 801 priests who did reply: 75% said they had a heterosexual orientation;
15% homosexual;
5% bisexual. 9

During 1990, Rev. Thomas Crangle, a Franciscan priest in Passaic, N.J., mailed a survey to 500 randomly selected priests. Of the 398 responses, about 45% said that they were gay. 10

Conclusion: If we assume that all of the estimates are of equal validity, then about 33% of priests have a homosexual orientation – about one in three.

However, as Father Donald Cozzens wrote:

“Beyond these estimates, of course, are priests who remain confused about their orientation and men who have so successfully denied their orientation, that in spite of predominately same-sex erotic fantasies, they insist that they are heterosexual.” 11

Many define “homosexuality” in terms of actual same-sex behavior. They regard themselves as not homosexual because they have never acted on their fantasies, desire and orientation. To that might be added an unknown percentage of priests who have a bisexual orientation, and consider themselves neither homosexual or bisexual.

Same-sex marriage involving priests:
Father Karl Clemens, now approaching 70 years-of-age, had served in the Kingston ON, Canada diocese for 33 years. He moved to Toronto in the mid 1990s to advocate for that city’s gay and lesbian community. He plans to marry his partner “Nick” on 2009-NOV-14. He believes that he will be the first Catholic priest to marry a man in Canada and perhaps in all of North America. He said:

“I’m not doing it to start a revolution, but if people want to exercise their right, and so forth, that’s terrific. … I’m leading the way – or pioneering as it were – in something that I think is very important. It’s a human right. … There will be Catholics who feel, because of their lack of understanding, that this is a very wrong thing and therefore will not be pleased. But those are consequences we have to be willing to deal with because we feel strongly about the issue at hand, which is the right to be able to enter into same-sex marriages.”

@ Jackson123, Saya menghargai yg anda tampilkan disini, cuman sayang gak pas utk “Diskusi Berita Terbaru”. Kalo mau cari berita2 yg uda lama itu ga ada habisnya, makanya saya menampilkan tanggal dan sumber berita agar bisa dicek kebenaran kutipan berita tsb. Terima kasih, GBU.

Maaf bro,saya cuman ingin memberi latar belakang dari berita ini saja, supaya kita tahu kira2 kenapa ini bisa terjadi.

Bener mereka sadar bahwa mereka diawasi oleh Tuhan, namun manusia kadang tdk sanggup melawan godaan iblis, makanya perlu peraturan yg lebih ketat serta pengawasan dari pihak lain. Ini setidaknya bisa meminimalisir terjadinya hal2 yg tdk diinginkan.

Diterima and thanks.

Mungkin inilah hukum wajibnya.
Mau jadi profesor, ujiannya pasti makin berat.
Mau makin dekat ama JC, godaan iblis pasti makin besar.
Mgk kita dianggap lulus klo bisa tangkap iblis dan masukin ke dlm toples.
Kayak di pilem2, hehehe…

Tdk masalah jika ada orang membesar2kan/menghembus2kan berita ginian. Bayangkan klo tdk ada pemberitaan atau hanya dianggap berita ga penting, maka akibatnya akan jauh lebih mengerikan. Dgn adanya pemberitaan ini, setidaknya kembali mengingatkan semua pihak agar lebih serius memikirkan sistem utk mengatasinya, dan membuat semua pihak bisa lebih meningkatkan pengawasan. Katolik & Kristen adalah saudara. Kita semua prihatin.

jika emang lelaki atau perempuan menyadari mereka masih mempunyai napsu, ya sekalian jangan jadi pastur atau biarawati. Biar ga jadi batu sandungan. Karna lebih baik lelaki menikah, jika dia masih mempunyai napsu. kalo mau jadi pastor, sebaiknya bener-bener menekan semua hawa napsunya

justru karena sadar punya nafsu itulah , maka hidup selibat jadi punya arti . Kalau seorang calon pastor /suster tidak punya punya nafsu ( dan itu akan kelihatan sejak ia menjadi awam ) maka apanya yang hendak disalibkan bersama Yesus ?. Nafsu itulah yang hendak dikurbankan / disalibkan bersama salib Kristus , dan oleh karenanya menjadi kurban persembahan yang berarti ! .
Seperti kita tahu bahwa sering kali nafsu seks itu menjadi cobaan paling berat . orang Jawa mengatakan HARTA ,TAHTA ,WANITA (kekayaan,jabatan dan wanita) dan ketiga nya saling berhubungan menginginkan wanita , dimodali banyak harta dulu dan banyak harta mendorong menginginkan banyak wanita dst nya .
seorang calon biarawan yang hendak menjalani hidup selibat tentu melalui pemeriksaan batin yang seksama mengenai motivasi nya .apakah putus asa ? apakah tidak punya nafsu lagi ? atau murni untuk mengabdikan hidup nya ? . disini biasanya peranan seorang Bapa Uskup mengambil peranan

Maksudnya disini nafsu seks

dari ayat ini
“Betapa liciknya hati, lebih licik dari pada segala sesuatu, hatinya sudah membatu: siapakah yang dapat mengetahuinya?” (Yeremia 17:9).

tidak ada yang tahu isi hati seseorang, apakah dia masih punya nafsu atau tidak selain dirinya sendiri.

Jadi sebaiknya atas kesadaran si calon pastor atau biarawati itu, jika ia menyadari masih menginginkan harta, wanita (pasangan hidup)… dan hal2 lainnya. Mungkin dia bisa mengabdikan dirinya dengan cara lain. :happy0062:
Banyak cara untuk mengabdikan hidup ke Tuhan, merawat orang tuna netra, bekerja pada gereja juga bisa disebut pengabdian.

Untuk yg udah menjadi pastor atau biarawati dan utk semua anak Tuhan seperti kita maka harus menjaga hatinya, karna dari situlah terpancar kehidupan
“Jagalah hatimu dengan segala kewaspadaan, karena dari situlah terpancar kehidupan.” (Amsal 4:23).

ok i agree with you then , let’s pray for them who lives in celibacy …